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FAIRWAY: Stakeholder engagement and governance arrangements in European agricultural drinking water catchments - Shared screen with speaker view
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
We Don't see the programme actually
Sindre Langaas
Please, pose your questions and comments here!
Christer Jansson
Who funded for the permanent gras?
Brian Murphy – Irish Water
Did the permanent grass displace leek planting or is it more Nitrogen absorbing?
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
Did the Farmers moved because of the restriction on growing leeks?
Jenneke van Vliet
(And with that, did the problem of nitrogen leakage move with them to another area?)
Jenneke van Vliet
Background: we are currently considering restrictions for certain crops in groundwater protection areas..
Morten Graversgaard
To: Bertrand Vallet: Land consolidation was used as a measure. One farmer swapped fields on another place on the island. Another farmer sold his land because of retirement plans..so many different solutions depending on the farmers needs
Frode Sundnes
Link to the mentioned published paper by van den Brink et al: https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/13/22/3278
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
Thanks Morten, I think the positive point is that the measures did not discurage farmers as a general behaviour which would be a bad consequence of the scheme
Luuk Lageschaar
You need to select a different screen to share in this case.
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
Groundwater does not pay but polluter pays principle is a key principle of the EU and should be applied. Operators also need trust on the application of these principles :)
Sindre Langaas
Since MAP is used extensively in most talks: MAP = Multi-Actor Platform
Cors van den Brink
Regarding the polluter paying: in most EU countries the agri emission are still too high to protect ecology, groundwater and surface water. And still authorities are not tightning regulations to prevent pollution or to make the polluter pay
Helena Andreeaon
One of the ground objectives in PPP is that the "polluter" is able to reclaim what he/she paid from the consumer. There are no such marigins for farmers, consumer is not interesed in paying more for products produces in a waterprotected area. (with lower outcome). Principle of proportionality is the leading principle when it comes to waterprotection.
Rozalija Cvejić
Thank you Katarina. One way to continue your activity of connecting stakeholders (supported by finances) are EIP groups, where there is also some space to move toward action - try new measures on grounds. Did you consider this option to continue your activities?
Jenneke van Vliet
If the speaker notes are not top secret, I don’t mind seeing them while Ingrid is presenting ;-)
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
Me neither
Benoît Fribourg-blanc
Me neither, just hide side part and top tools and it should be rather readable for all...
Frode Sundnes
Link to mentioned paper by Nesheim et al.: https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4441/13/22/3204
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
link to the Briefing Notes we published last year: https://www.eureau.org/resources/briefing-notes/4433-briefing-note-on-cooperation-projects-between-water-operators-and-farmers/file
Cors van den Brink
In addition to MAPs (meaningful engagement) specific objectives related to farm management (N surplus!!) are essential in the Overijssel case
Peter Leendertse
Agree with Cors. Also in the Brabant case it’s important to have specific objectives. It makes the MAP discussion stronger and it helps the farmers to see what’s the goal to work on
Susanne Klages, Dr.
Are the targets not set now with the Farm to Fork Strategy?
Peter Leendertse
The Farm to Fork targets on pesticides aren’t translated to national levels yet. And not to farm level.
Cors van den Brink
Essential is to distinguise between objectives / targets at farm level and more general and far away objectives in groundwater, surface water, ecology etc
Rodrigo Vidaurre
I would beg to differ with NIels Peter's statement that fertiliser is necessarily a valuable input for farmers. In areas with huge livestock production (e.g many areas in the Netherlands and Germany) slurry and manure are available in excess, and the farmer faces the problem of how to get rid of excess organic fertiliser, paying good money to get rid of it.
Benoît Fribourg-blanc
as said by Niels, land use is not a closed process like a facility, but facilities do release wastewater in the environment and have to treat before discharge.
Benoît Fribourg-blanc
Thanks to Fairway project and presenters for interesting webinar.
Birgitte Hansen
Experience from Denmark is that lag time communication to farmers is an important element to address in effective groundwater action plans
Cors van den Brink
Therefor we do the nitrate measures as high in the system as possible: upper phreatic groundwater with a lag time of appr 3-4 year
Bertrand Vallet - EurEau
Face to face meeting are the most efficient one normally with COM
Berit Hasler
Communication to farmers is important, I strongly support the idea of using models to illustrate effects of actions, taking time lags into account. Also used other places in the world. And thank you for a very nice seminar, good presentations and interesting discussions! and finally, thanks for having had the possibility to take part of a very fruitful project (Fairway).
Helena Andreeaon
Thank You!